If it was after the floors were stained it could be that the excess stain wasn’t removed before applying the finish. Make sure your hardwood refinishing guy provides lots of samples for you to choose from. I have 9 year old Brazilian cherry floors that were originally left untainted and sealed with a polyurethane satin finish. Without looking at the issue in person it is hard for me to say exactly what happened, but I think you are heading the right way in thinking that there was too much stain added to the floor. You could try re-sanding the floors back again and making sure the contaminates are removed between each board. Have you seen Bona Graphite? Required fields are marked *, Please answer the question below before submitting your comment: seven  −   =  three .hide-if-no-js{display:none!important}. Should I do ebony, jacobeen, antique walnut, ebony with some red mahogany? Great idea. I like the look of … Do you like the light, clean open look of a lighter colored modern grey shade…, Or do you fancy the deep, elegant and bold look of dark black floors…, Maybe your eye is drawn to the brown shades in between these two palates…. Lighter shades like Cherry and Golden Oak will accent the natural grains and beauty of a floor while still giving it some depth and color. So today, I'm sharing an updated tour... welcome to our farmhouse! You really shouldn’t have a problem if its only in a smaller area. To be honest I couldn’t tell you the color unless I had a look at it in person. I’m having a hard time finding it. It is very warm and elegant. It’s hard to tell from just a picture on the internet but I think Rubio Monocoat Monsoon Grey Pre-Color Easy + Black could be heading in the right direction. What combination of stains would you suggest so I could get the same type of look with white oak flooring? Okay, let’s go from darkest to lightest. For our new house, we were thinking of putting Red Chestnut upstairs in all four bedrooms, the hallway, and on the stairs down to the main level. There is not much info out there to reduce the red without going very dark-I just want a warm brown. You can see an example of a stained hardwood floor with white cabinets we did for the Waterson family in Glen Ellyn, Illinois about halfway down the page here: In the end though it’s up to you and personal choice :). thank you Colleen. You should be able to find images of houses with all sorts of wood flooring colors, stains and shades within them. I am currently having my floors sanded and there are some dark circles left that are probably old pet stains. To fix it you’ll need to allow sufficient time for the stain in the gaps to dry and then start over. On our sample we did Red Oak and Red Mahogany, I am really drawn to the darkness of the mahogany but I am thinking about mixing a stain in to give it a little more brown tone. Have you looked at Duraseal Coffee Brown color? As long as they’re kiln dried properly and aren’t warped you’ll have no trouble selling them I’m sure. Especially on the two different types of oak you’re thinking of choosing between. Will the floor guy need to replace the wood planks in these areas? Thx! And does the dark floor show dust alot ?? Or, should we go ahead and make plugs and proceed accordingly? An “almost mahogany” color is a pretty wide range of shades unfortunately. I want them very dark but not a shoe polish black. It shows more “wavy wood grain pattern” for lack of a better description. We always do this hand have never had an issue with white lines. We want to look fairly contemporary and like the color of these photos. I recently got my wood floors refinished. We’re installing new red oak select in 1 bedroom and hallway. Yes it will be a bit of a challenge trying to tie in all that different wood together. Many times however, staining will allow the pet stains to blend right in and become unnoticable if you go dark enough like you’re thinking. But in your picture it doesn’t. We want to keep that nice medium cocoa brown of walnut and see the lovely grain lines but are stuck on how. We have done them with ebony but it will be too dark for you I think. Thanks! You should be able to pretty quickly see what you like and even more importantly what shades you don’t like with the big samples they have on display. In order to match the various colourings in the grains, I thought of investing in several different colours of putty. Approximately 1000 sq feet. What are your thoughts and how do I get that perfect very dark color again without the lines? I hope this new guy can get you sorted out Brian. We have stained many different species of wood floors for clients, including Brazilian Cherry and maple floors that clients weren’t in love with. Don’t just use waterbased finish though as it will look very washed out. Make sure to do a big sample area too with finish applied (that will change the color) so you’re confident that’s the final look you want. 1) I know your windows are small, but if you have light colored walls you could blend the two floors all in together with a darker stain. Unfortunately we are a long way from Naperville but I’ve enjoyed reading your posts and tips. We have got a sample piece of wood and have stained it. You have to decide on something you like that will look good with your furnishings long-term. It is definitely caused by some sort of contamination. Which colors should I try to achieve this? Since we don’t, we ended up going the DIY route. Are the floors quite old? Wall color will be light tone (cream or very light coffee). Hope that helps. The previous color on the floor was a deep ebony (I don’t know the actual color from the previous owners)that I would like to replicate but maybe a little lighter. We don’t go out of our way to advertise it because we love refinishing hardwood floors more, but at least once a month we’ll do the full package and install, sand and then refinish a hardwood floor for a client :). It sounds like you only have the fir in the living room – you could make a focal point out of that beautiful wood if you wanted to and not even bother trying to hide or blend it. Stain samples on a white oak floor. The wood most likely will be a different type and it will not take the stain the same as your floor. Our style is cozy and comfortable – not too contemporary and definitely not modern. Also wondering if there is much difference between Bona Jacobean and DuraSeal? The color is a mix of Rosewood and Natural – 50% of each. For your second question, yes you will need to apply a finish over the top of the stain to protect it. English Chestnut. As far as custom stains, we do it all the time :), For a “brown/walnut feel, but with an added warmth of red/yellow hues” you’re really going to have to experiment on some sample boards – that’s a tough one. Now we’re seeing a bit of a swing back to lighter colored stained floors, while still having many clients choose a dark stain. Do you have any experience with and recommendations of a Rubio color that might accomplish this, or are we asking for the impossible? Good luck with your project! It was moved off a farm and into town in the 1940’s and a second floor was added on. I really like the look of the darker colors and don’t love anything “reddish”. My house is a mix of oaks and cherries and I don’t want the floor to try to match anything. From top: Jacobean, Ebony, Dark Walnut, 50/50 Jacobean and Ebony, 50/50 Jacobean and Dark Walnut, and English Chestnut at the bottom. what do you suggest. Thanks. It’s 50% Minwax Sedonna red mixed with 50% English Chestnut penetrating stain. I’m not totally convinced I made the right decision since I did like the ligher color better, but I still believe this one looks good. Hi Tadas, I never knew picking a floor color would be so difficult. We recently had our red oak floors sanded and asked our contractor to stain them dark prepared to see a color like in your above pic, unfortunately they tried a dark walnut and Jacobean and both looked to light even the ebony was pretty light with greenish tint. Sorry about your bad outcome with your floors :(. To start out, I would use Special Walnut as the base color like you suggested and then start experimenting with percentages of Jacobean or a similar shade. Thank you very much Tadas. 1) Stain in the gaps between the boards isn’t dried properly. Border: Maple stain: Natural I have been told that the darker the stain, the less variance between the boards. The flooring is white oak and I was looking to go with a dark stain? We’ll try out Golden Pecan, Golden Oak, Puritan Pine and Natural. I can’t really tell you what colors you would need without seeing the actual board you want to match in person and doing some experiments on sample boards. Hi Tadas, were redoing our floors and walls we want to do the the walls edge come gray (light gray) and the floor we want to do darker but not very dark like ebony or jacobean a b;t lighter and not red or orange… what do u recommend that will compliment the walls and vica versa?thanks! Could you tell me the wood type and stain color in the photo with the fireplace? It is greatly appreciated! Red oak and fir are very different woods as you know but they aren’t too far apart in the color spectrum thankfully. What type of topcoat am I looking for (shoes off, no pet, no kids household) I read your blog but didn’t see anything about avoiding the white line syndrome. I appreciate your response. You want something that will ground your room/s styling and not clash with your décor. I am just about to move into my new home and wanted to stain my hardwood floors before I move in. The company has told us that this is because there is oil in the pine and it cannot be helped. The floors are currently stained with a neutral color which has turned to a yellowish color. I had decided on Rubio as a finish but we cannot seem to find a color that’s “right” for the handscraped walnut floors we are getting. It looks good doesn’t it. It is highly helpful for me. Dark Walnut. Tadas, I loved your article and your comments! As you found out first hand, the guys out there that are cheap are usually cheap for a reason. We thought of staining but then was told dark colors will get darker. Please answer the question below before submitting your comment: © Copyright 2020 All Rights Reserved. If you want a darker color then you could stain it any color you choose. I’m sure they’ll look great in the end. A shade darker would look perfectly fine. Then it looks like you’ve tried to match it but missed the mark :), Helllo I was wondering how you achieved the dark stain on the first picture on this blog? I wanted a light grey so I started testing Ribio Monocoat. When this article was originally written almost 9 years ago, dark colors were all the rage in magazines. I have no fear in that aspect(or even the machineing). Just to be clear – when we talk about “staining” we are talking about a separate step done to color your wood floors. I live in Washington state and am in the process of getting my red oak floors professionally sanded and re-stained. I did some quick research for you and it looks like it will take stain ok though. have to redo some areas near the windows, etc. Thank you. Is the peeling happening after a recoat or after the floors were stained? 5. Do the test patches on all 3 woods as close to each other as possible so you can see how they look together. I want a warm color with no red. That’s my favorite one and I’m VERY curious to know what the wood and stain is! Sorry to hear of your troubles. Again, this will depend on the style you want to have in your home. thank you, Hi Tadas, these are the colors I’m looking for. In between those 2 decades there has been a lot of different looks from very dark floors, to red floors up to the grey floors that are popular right now. We have installed #2 common red oak, 2 1/4″ planks, throughout the house & plan to finish them with Rubio Monocoat. That will keep it dark but add the brown that you want. Yes that will be a medium brown look. My cabinets have a reddish ton to them and I don’t want them to clash either. I would like a warm brown, something to cut the red. I would call another professional to come around to have a look and give you a second opinion, it can’t hurt. Sorry, I should have said the kitchen cabinets were installed in the 1980’s, and they’re that medium oak color, similar to golden oak I think. not too dark or too light. And the other three would have a shinier finish. My goal is to create a warm cozy feel. Walnut is so lovely on its own, we wanted something that stays true to it, maybe deepening it just a bit, while minimizing the sharp contrast of the white/yellow sapwood so the floor color is a little more consistent. We tend to blend most of our stain colors as well so most of our floors are custom colors. Sorry for the bad news. I’ll go into detail explaining the best way to make sure you’re completely 100% happy with your decision, before you commit to staining the entire floor. Way too much red tone for me. What do you think? How do you apply stain without losing the natural color variation in the wood? But the main issue I am having, and maybe it isn’t even a issue…..is the doors and trim. Hi. Since I decided, JUST to have the floors sanded and polyurethane, I thought any floor guy should be able to do that. Many stairways, especially those in older homes, were built to be a house’s showpiece, and when time wears on them, they deserve careful restoration. Unfortunately we don’t have heart pine floors here so I’m not experienced enough to give a professional opinion sorry. make spanikopita for Him again too! None are what we have in mind. I like matte would you recommend that again or would I be better with a different finish? Much better to practice on test pieces first. It looks very nice. You can read up about Rubio Monocoat and see the huge range of colors here: https://napervillehardwood.com/blog/the-hardwax-oil-experiment-part-2-monocoat/, Hi Tadas, Awesome blog! Come back and let us know how you go. If you do need to re-sand, I suggest you waterpop the floors so you can get that darker look you want. Can I pick your brain. ... European White Oak; Fir; French Oak; French White Oak; Furn; German Beech; Hard Maple; Heart Pine; Hickory; Hickory Natural; Ipe (Brazilian Walnut) Knotty Alder; What do you think could have caused this? Is this because we hand buffed the samples vs using a machine (as we will for the actual floors)? I am thinking chesnut or medium brown. Do they have to fully sand down the floors and restain another color to achieve the color I want. Is chestnut too close? Very disappointed in that. Natural colored old fir is absolutely beautiful. Scratches will show through easier and dust will be much more noticeable on the surface. Tada, Thank you so much for taking the time to help. I would like to add we had them stained in a dark walnut and Jacobean mix which was ashy and to dark. To be clear, I did not apply stain. And whoever is sanding that fir, make sure they go easy on it – they’re very soft and you don’t want to take too much wood and patina off. DURA SEAL Penetrating Finish is a semi-transparent stain formulated to seal, color and provide exceptional durability when used on bare wood and masonry surfaces. Unfortunately that’s not how matching wood colors works. I’m looking at getting my floors stained in the near future. They are your floors and you have to live with them. One of my top favorite stain colors is Minwax Provincial, I’ve used it a lot! We’ve been wanting to do a wood/stain study for years now and in my head, I wanted to do every type of wood with about 20 different stains each.But with limited resources (not to mention space), we settled on 5 popular species of wood commonly used by DIYers, with 6 different stains; 2 light, 2 medium and 2 dark. Hi Tadas, I own a sawmill, dry kiln, planer, etc.. Looking forward to any feedback you may have. English Chestnut 233. Thank you very much for writing quality content for people like me to read and research. If you don’t use a finish with a ultraviolet inhibitor, then yes the floors will change color (darker) with sunlight. Can you give me the specifics on the stain used called “Golden Brown”??? And yes you’re right that the sanding has to be completely finished before the stain is ready to be applied. I think this comment was for me,Tadas, right? More important though is the quality of the finish. I’m sure they would have no problem water popping the floor for you either (unless they are extremely under-qualified, but I’m sure they’re not or you wouldn’t have hired them.). The main ones are…. The floors that we have currently made are pretty much all 8’long stock and we make the blanks oversize through the rip so we can keep them extra straight out of the moulder. Surprising, I haven’t come up with any reference to this problem online. It’s never fun when things go wrong :(. Maybe get your stager to pop over to help you with the choice as well, they’re usually very good with colors and style. or 50/50. Since the contractor was not happy with the sanding job, we had the floor resanded and are starting over. I would not be able to guess what it is from behind my computer though unfortunately. Let’s go through a few steps to see what your decision should be. He resanded and started over saying in 20 years he had never seen this – was thinking it had something to do with my subfloor and the air underneath. Tada, also, on another forum they were saying that unless you change out the boards of the urine stains, in the hot weather you will smell it… is this true? Thanks for the great information. I’m not a fan of the golden oak. Here’s a blog post I wrote on water popping to help you out on this subject: As far as choosing the stain color, we usually do that before the job has begun. Cherry 235 ... Minwax ® Water Based Wood Stain English Oak. Also if we make some SYP plank floors, in 12′-16′ lengths (so there is no need to end match) do you think that this would be marketable (same price range). You can also check out our own collection of photos from previous hardwood floor projects for some inspiration. 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